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Post by mailartist on Mar 17, 2017 13:32:00 GMT
Though the company terminated its relationship with Adaptive Marketing and Vertrue (interesting company name choice, that, all things considered), that was in 2009, eight years ago. Jamberry's experience has been since then, so it seems that whether it's apples or oranges, it is still Vistaprint "fruit," and, as the Bible teaches, "By their fruits, ye shall know them." A questionable harvest, it seems to me.
A quote from Tad R. Callister seems applicable here:
Integrity is not doing just that which is legal but that which is moral or Christlike. It may be legal to commit adultery . . . , it may be legal to gossip, but none of those actions is moral or Christlike. Integrity is not just adherence to the legal code; it is also adherence to the higher moral code.' -- (emphasis added)
And, in my book, the higher moral code involves being neighborly, kind, and straightforward. Hardly what seems to be happening with this company's business model.
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Post by mailartist on Mar 17, 2017 13:41:30 GMT
I will say that we had some billing problems with Fed Ex, back before we retired from our small business, and occasionally had to ship products. (This is a "mail" site, so this story fits, thematically.)
We had repeated occasions where we'd go to ship something, pay with a business credit card, and receive documentation that the shipping cost would be This Much. However, when the credit card statement came in, the charge was Something Else (higher, mind you). Similar thing to Jamberry, that we didn't check the actual charges in comparison to the original receipt that Fed Ex gave us, and when we dug back, we discovered that this sort of deceptive Fed Ex shipping thing had happened to us ALL THE TIME. Sometimes to the tune of about 30% increase above what we expected.
We inquired from Fed Ex, and were given some sort of song and dance about initial shipping estimates which could change down the road, blah blah.
So, we fought back. We switched to paying for any shipping with a business check. We NEVER used our business credit card there again, so when we left the Fed Ex drop off point, the shipping had been "paid in full." They no longer had the benefit of delayed billing time with credit card purchases to jigger the prices up.
This "bait and switch" approach is hardly "integrity," but it made the company money -- if that's the only thing that matters to such.
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Post by radellaf on Mar 17, 2017 19:22:20 GMT
I don't see anything in Jamberry's post about when their 2.5 years of "rewards" happened... and, if you're limiting yourself to christlike corporations with integrity then you aren't going to be buying much. All I take from it is to be very careful about what I click on, and to at least skim my credit card statements. For business cards, I found the prices at iPrint.com to be as good or better than Vistaprint. Given that I wanted a custom full color design with none of their advertising on the back. About $15 shipped for 250 custom design cards now. About $10 less than it was in 2005 when I first used them.
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Post by eunice on May 19, 2017 16:01:25 GMT
That happened to me a few years ago. I tried every way to contact them. I even phoned them, which is not easy, given that I live in the UK and they are in the USA. In the end, my husband contacted the bank and put a stop on the monthly charge. You can bet Vistaprint got in touch with me, in double quick time! It was eventually sorted out. I have ordered from them again, but I'm canny to their tricks and scrutinise every page very carefully. I don't order address labels from them any more. The address is printed in tiny sized type, and the labels don't all peel cleanly away from the backing paper. Stationerygalore.co.uk is better, and they have a USA branch.
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Post by sharmon202 on Jun 4, 2017 16:45:40 GMT
I order from Vistaprint now, have several times. Prices and services is good. Maybe they learned a lesson?
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Post by alcyone on Jun 7, 2017 8:00:15 GMT
Wow, how did "shared details with" become "take my money"? That's crazy. I wonder if the Netherlands has special laws that help here.
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