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Post by radellaf on Dec 16, 2020 19:00:44 GMT
Has anyone read Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards? Probably twice in my life, last time in 2011. I find it doesn't improve your drawing at all - if you don't do any of the exercises.
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Post by vertolive on Dec 17, 2020 5:52:51 GMT
Has anyone ever had their handwriting professionally analysed by a graphologist? Sort of. The PhD Toxicologist who had to sign off on my reports each day said “I can tell which results you calculated at the end of the night. Your handwriting looks you’re either organically brain damaged or late stage schizophrenic.”
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Post by InsomniaQueen on Dec 17, 2020 13:57:03 GMT
vertolive - That de-incentivizes having mine analyzed by anyone!
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Post by Catida on Dec 17, 2020 19:34:47 GMT
Has anyone read Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards? Not familiar with that book, but I once took a weekend long course for drawing with the right side of the brain. Basically it was about drawing from model, just looking carefully at the angles of lines etc. and forgetting about the subject. I think it suited my "engineer brain" very well We didn't try to draw with the non-dominant hand, though.
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Post by ole on Dec 17, 2020 20:33:41 GMT
His comment is actually a bit of a compliment since he likens it to that of the average medical doctor's writing of prescriptions, which is legendary. I take it as very funny, and I'm sure that's how it was meant.
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Post by radellaf on Dec 18, 2020 15:31:12 GMT
As for my handwriting...It is about double/ if not treble in size than it was when I was young and using an italic or stub nib has been part of that. Has anyone ever had their handwriting professionally analyzed by a graphologist? For the first, I still think my "native" handwriting is about an 8 point font, comfortably within 5 or 6mm ruling. However, if I wear only my "close up" glasses, I can't quite see that sharply, so I probably go a mm or two bigger than that. Usually I put more magnification on (visor or a set of readers... I _really_ need some just plain stronger glasses or <gasp? bifocals) and good light so I can see the ink as it goes from shiny to dry. I've always enjoyed that about RBs and FPs. Nibs? Yeah, I still like a Sailor F, best, or a 0.6-0.7mm italic (have a couple of F.C. Masuyama nibs like that). Initially I had broader nibs (Euro M) since that's all you could get, and now I have two Pelikan B nibs (BB if you count the Duo but I haven't used that nib yet) and about a million 1.1 untipped italics. I do love italic nibs. Having nothing but a euro M is really frustrating if you don't write to fit an 8-10mm ruling. THAT motivated my re-learning an Italic style. The "e" is the hardest to keep from having it fill in. The style of "e" where you write a "c" and then have a stroke go out from the center, really helps. Graphology? Not a professional, but I read enough books on it to get a pretty good idea what a pro would have, broadly, concluded. I give up on the science for linking a high crossbar on a "t" with high self-confidence. Also something about a low descender on "g" meaning sexual frustration? That, and absolutely none of the books referred to any studies linking other personality measures to the graphology. It's as if they don't even want to try. Still, it's fun in the same way astrology can be.
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Post by InsomniaQueen on Dec 19, 2020 12:17:44 GMT
I would love to have my handwriting analyzed just for fun.
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Post by radellaf on Dec 21, 2020 16:28:07 GMT
Interesting. I'm not sure that we've seen that particular comments on the 'g' before but I gather it would depend upon whether the loop went left or right, how low it went, how narrow or wide compared to the other letters etc etc. Here's an example: In the interests of furthering confirmation bias, I found this: "Should We Write off Graphology"A more positive view I found with a quick Google is The Lowdown on Handwriting AnalysisSome of the broad observations of spacing, slant, and alignment, if anything, might have more validity. Intuitively and at a statistical level, anyway, I can see how neat people might have neat handwriting. Wouldn't swear to it, or make any important decisions about hiring someone based on that, though. I might get something from observing how someone reacted to their analysis report. Really, though, I'm of a mind that the best way to hire people (which is what I usually hear graphology used for) is to ask straightforward questions about job-related things. The other stuff that interviewers ask, like what animal you'd be or what superpower you want to have, seem to be trying to elicit things that you could just as easily observe while listening answers to questions with more objective answers. That topic is, I guess, is a whole can of worms on its own. I've only interviewed people for one position, and my first pick was a disaster. An off-site programmer whose smallest problem was that he never seemed to write any code. I don't think I ever saw his handwriting. My sweetie, with a psychology background and lots of experience picking roommates, could probably have done a much better job. Hiring, I mean; not writing software.
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Post by InsomniaQueen on Dec 22, 2020 15:49:21 GMT
Has anyone ever had their handwriting professionally analysed by a graphologist? Ok. I was inspired by this thread and submitted my handwriting for analysis. This is the Communication section: "Poise and self-respect are evident in your handwriting. You comport yourself with balance, freedom from affectation and with good composure. There are signs in your handwriting of steadfastness in your allegiance to ideals and to persons and institutions you believe in. It is wise for you to periodically re-examine your allegiances to be sure you are not blinded or misled by binding memories of a status quo that may no longer be real. You can be direct and straight-forward in your communications and are able to come right to the point in a conversation. You are also concise in getting across to your listeners. Your approach will be free from extraneous details that can slow you down. You may impress others as a stimulating, thought-provoking partner in conversation. If you are working, your approach to work will be uncomplicated." It does sound a bit like a horoscope... LOL
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Post by InsomniaQueen on Dec 22, 2020 21:18:09 GMT
Ok. I was inspired by this thread and submitted my handwriting for analysis. This is the Communication section: "Poise and self-respect are evident in your handwriting. You comport yourself with balance, freedom from affectation and with good composure. There are signs in your handwriting of steadfastness in your allegiance to ideals and to persons and institutions you believe in. It is wise for you to periodically re-examine your allegiances to be sure you are not blinded or misled by binding memories of a status quo that may no longer be real. You can be direct and straight-forward in your communications and are able to come right to the point in a conversation. You are also concise in getting across to your listeners. Your approach will be free from extraneous details that can slow you down. You may impress others as a stimulating, thought-provoking partner in conversation. If you are working, your approach to work will be uncomplicated." It does sound a bit like a horoscope... LOL Thanks for sharing that. I might have to dig out our old reports again....from memory, they were about 12 pages long and felt rather specific rather than generic. It is much longer than this. This was just an excerpt.
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Post by ole on Dec 22, 2020 21:31:43 GMT
I've actually reconsidered my writing after thinking about this thread. My grip is still as it was. I like it. But the paper orientation is now very different. Instead of having the paper at an angle, like most people do, I now have it dead straight in front of me.
I've had to practice that a little, but I noticed that I was fighting to make vertical lines before. Ascenders and decenders were subsequently of various angles. Since I desire to not have any slant, and have a perfectly square, non italic, font. It is much better now. The first problem was a slight tendency for the middle of lines to rise slightly, but it seems that that is just an eye thing, and it's almost fixed already.
Please don't get the impression that my writing is neat. By normal and cursive standards it is not. I have a terrible time writing now. Eyesight and slight muscle spasms are my enemy. That doesn't worry me much though, as my aesthetic is concerned with readability and ease of writing. And indeed, there is an unmistakable style to my writing, so I might as well own it.
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Post by ole on Dec 22, 2020 21:39:00 GMT
Thanks for sharing that. I might have to dig out our old reports again....from memory, they were about 12 pages long and felt rather specific rather than generic. It is much longer than this. This was just an excerpt. I wonder, if you were to take ten other reports from the same analyst, if it would be possible to discern an real personality differences. I mean to prove legitimacy, it should be possible to work the same thing backwards. In other words, read the report, and point to the person.
Don't hit me, but I'm with @dignum in thinking it sounds like an astrology report. lol
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Post by InsomniaQueen on Dec 22, 2020 23:17:56 GMT
It is much longer than this. This was just an excerpt. I wonder, if you were to take ten other reports from the same analyst, if it would be possible to discern an real personality differences. I mean to prove legitimacy, it should be possible to work the same thing backwards. In other words, read the report, and point to the person.
Don't hit me, but I'm with @dignum in thinking it sounds like an astrology report. lol
Sorry, but the report says that I am strictly non-violent. I did it just for fun and without any expectations of accuracy.
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Post by InsomniaQueen on Dec 23, 2020 0:51:33 GMT
Don't hit me, but I'm with @dignum in thinking it sounds like an astrology report. lol
No, not me. I did not suggest anything like that at all. Sorry. Nope. It wasn't @dignum. I was actually the one who suggested it.
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Post by stompie on Dec 23, 2020 4:07:38 GMT
Hmm, my handwriting "style" depends on which pen I am using, my mood, my concentration level etc. wonder what they would say about that?
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