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Post by radellaf on Oct 14, 2020 0:19:54 GMT
Herbin color, somehow they seem to be weak and watery. Ya noticed that, eh? There are some notable exceptions but most of their line is more watercolor than writing ink. Black, blue, violet, lierre sauvage, garnet, cyclamen, and terre de feu are all plenty intense. vert de gris, bleu Profundeur, vert empire, Poussiere de lune, rouge caroubier, lie de the are all pretty good too but lighter.
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Post by distractedmom on Oct 14, 2020 3:29:12 GMT
Herbin color, somehow they seem to be weak and watery. Ya noticed that, eh? There are some notable exceptions but most of their line is more watercolor than writing ink. Black, blue, violet, lierre sauvage, garnet, cyclamen, and terre de feu are all plenty intense. vert de gris, bleu Profundeur, vert empire, Poussiere de lune, rouge caroubier, lie de the are all pretty good too but lighter. My lierre sauvage is quite saturated but my bleu azur isn’t usable.
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Post by radellaf on Oct 14, 2020 14:33:09 GMT
Yeah the Sapphire (their plain blue) is pretty good but azur is like this, literal, "sky" blue. Watercolor. I'm split on their Orange. It's not bad, but not as dark as I prefer. Cafe is decent too, maybe even darker than the Tea.
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Post by ole on Oct 14, 2020 17:39:47 GMT
Herbin color, somehow they seem to be weak and watery. Ya noticed that, eh? There are some notable exceptions but most of their line is more watercolor than writing ink. Black, blue, violet, lierre sauvage, garnet, cyclamen, and terre de feu are all plenty intense. vert de gris, bleu Profundeur, vert empire, Poussiere de lune, rouge caroubier, lie de the are all pretty good too but lighter. I've only got one J. Herbin ink and that's Vert de Gris. I must say when it arrived I was a bit taken aback by how thin it was. I've tried different papers and I'm not sure I'm going to be able to use it for writing. Even on soft cotton paper is doesn't make enough of an impression for my taste. I'm guessing, despite Herbin being an old company, they're trying to get a modern look like the washed out text currently popular on the internet. That trend is a downward spiral leading to illegibility. But then again, not all inks are intended for writing.
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Post by doultonmyra on Oct 14, 2020 20:11:56 GMT
I just found an ink blog that looks rather fun: www.mountainofink.com. A couple years ago I had sort of a strange thing happen. I had purchased some Private Reserve Gray Flannel. When I went to fill a pen with it I found it was blueish not gray. I called the store and they sent me the correct color and told me I could keep the off color ink. I decided to use the blueish color and found that I really loved the color. I contacted the store to see if they had any more of the not gray Gray Flannel, they had returned the batch to the company. I contacted the company and it was a bad batch of dye and they didn't have any more of it. Now every time I look for inks I look for a color like the blueish color it was sort of a soft blue with just a blush of violet. That ink blog has hounded me into ordering obscure inks from other continents! Several other continents...hmmm... I wonder if you got some PR inks and a mixing kit if you could revive the one-off "not Gray Flannel". I liked that color a lot and am awaiting a (not grayish). Vinta Aegean Armada, PenBBS #279; 3 oysters doldam, look like they could mix to a bluish gray. I have "Mouse" by DeAtramentis which I like as much as, if not more than, the PR Gray Flannel.
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Post by radellaf on Oct 15, 2020 1:27:02 GMT
Herbin - I don't think they're "trying to get a modern look". <chuckle> I think the trend has come back around to what they've been doing for over 100 years. Not that i've seen any washed out text on the internet? Where are you seeing that? If it's instagram that'd explain why I haven't seen it...
VdG in my pen was certainly dark enough to write with. Maybe it's the pen? I think I was using a Pelikan EF or a Pilot 78G M. It wasn't DARK dark, but certainly usable. On Rhodia. Most of the Iroshizuku colors were lighter. Tsuyu-kusa is a totally different shade (pure blue) but about as dark as I remember VdG. Also possible that bottles vary. I get the idea ink is not exactly precisely made stuff.
Mixing - yeah, if you want a color you've got but just a little difference, then mixing inks is the way to go. A gray that needs a little more blue? You've got your choice of blues to add. Try it a few mL in a vial or syringe if you want to be careful about it but 99.9% of the time it'll be fine. A kit has guaranteed compatibility and should offer intense primaries. But if all you want is a bit more blue here, a bit more red there, then I'd just go for it.
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