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Post by sharmon202 on Aug 9, 2015 19:28:12 GMT
I thought TR was one companies paper. Now I understand it is a type of paper made by many? what are the differences between TR papers? Anyone explored this? Any recommendations of where to get different ones to compare? I am totally sold on TR and writing on other papers feels odd. I still do it but not often as pen pals can tell. I use the bigger sheets for international correspondence and generally the A5 size for CONUS. Thanks, thanks also Mia and anyone else involved for another source of communicating with friends.
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legallyinked
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Post by legallyinked on Aug 9, 2015 23:26:09 GMT
I have purchased from Nanami (my usual) and his TR is very smooth. I have purchased from paperforfountainpens.com and theirs is a little more textured. It's subtle, but noticeable. Both have been nice to use. But TR is a type of paper with multiple makers. I don't know enough about the grades and methods so it would be interesting to research.
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Post by writingrav on Aug 10, 2015 11:45:44 GMT
Agreed that you can tell the difference between Nanami and paperforfountainpens tome river papers. I use both since they each have different types of products that I want, i.e.. Nanami sells lined journals and PFFP doesn't.
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Post by chojo on Aug 10, 2015 16:04:39 GMT
I too wasn't aware that there were different grades until I started penpalling, Here in the uk It's quite hard to find but I know cult pens have just started to sell it in loose form as well as pads. I haven't tried theirs yet as I still have a stash from my last purchase on eBay but if and when I get some I'll be happy to do a little report on it. I have a journal from PFFP too that I just realised I haven't used yet, must dig it out and see what it's like.
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Post by alc3261 on Aug 11, 2015 15:18:10 GMT
I have purchased from Nanami (my usual) and his TR is very smooth. I have purchased from paperforfountainpens.com and theirs is a little more textured. It's subtle, but noticeable. Both have been nice to use. But TR is a type of paper with multiple makers. I don't know enough about the grades and methods so it would be interesting to research. As far as I know Tomoe River paper is made by one manufacturer and they make many different papers. Nanami and paperforfountainpens buy from the manufacturer and may buy slightly different papers.
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Post by migo984 on Aug 11, 2015 21:48:14 GMT
They also produce the paper in different weights - at least, the surface texture and smoothness feels exactly the same as Tomoe, but it is slightly heavier & more dense, if that makes sense? It's still called Tomoe.
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Post by sharmon202 on Aug 12, 2015 22:16:22 GMT
I tried some research and came up with almost nothing. Paper made by Tomoegawa Paper Co. Japan. 100 year old company. They make different grades/weights for different purposes. It is half the thickness of copy paper. That is about all I found my friends. Sure odd to google something and hardly find facts. Sandy
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Post by alc3261 on Aug 12, 2015 22:35:26 GMT
Very difficult to do unless you speak Japanese. I have asked Jay (several months ago) and he was going to try to identify the 54gsm TR paper which is slightly heavier and a little less slick than the "usual" TR paper.
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Post by MrAndersen on Sept 13, 2015 14:55:24 GMT
I've just spent a bit of time going through the Tomoegawa website, and here's the (apparent) deal:
Tomoe River paper is, as most probably know by now, a printing paper that gained unexpected popularity among fountain pen users. Seeing this success, the company re-launched the paper in loose leaf- and pad form specifically for fountain pen users. These new papers, referred to by the company as 'Tomoe River FP,' are largely handled by Sakae Technical Paper, weigh 52gsm/2, and come with the TR logo embossed or printed on the cover.
A Tomoe River paper intended for use in journals and planners is also available from the company. They advertise the 52gms/2 version, but other options are available 'upon consultation'. In addition, the journal paper can optionally be made with 30% recycled paper, which I would guess accounts for the slightly greater coarseness in some types.
Finally there is the TR paper still intended for printing. This is available in anywhere from 24 to 85gsm/2.
Hope that helps, I can't really tell you much about specific notebooks since I've only ever used the loose sheets sold by Sakae, myself. If you happen to have any specific Japanese brand you'd like to know about, I'd be happy to go through a few websites for you.
B. Andersen
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Post by alc3261 on Sept 13, 2015 17:08:10 GMT
Very difficult to do unless you speak Japanese. I have asked Jay (several months ago) and he was going to try to identify the 54gsm TR paper which is slightly heavier and a little less slick than the "usual" TR paper. I should have said 68gsm not 54.
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Post by sharmon202 on Sept 13, 2015 22:49:17 GMT
I've just spent a bit of time going through the Tomoegawa website, and here's the (apparent) deal: Tomoe River paper is, as most probably know by now, a printing paper that gained unexpected popularity among fountain pen users. Seeing this success, the company re-launched the paper in loose leaf- and pad form specifically for fountain pen users. These new papers, referred to by the company as 'Tomoe River FP,' are largely handled by Sakae Technical Paper, weigh 52gsm/2, and come with the TR logo embossed or printed on the cover. A Tomoe River paper intended for use in journals and planners is also available from the company. They advertise the 52gms/2 version, but other options are available 'upon consultation'. In addition, the journal paper can optionally be made with 30% recycled paper, which I would guess accounts for the slightly greater coarseness in some types. Finally there is the TR paper still intended for printing. This is available in anywhere from 24 to 85gsm/2. Hope that helps, I can't really tell you much about specific notebooks since I've only ever used the loose sheets sold by Sakae, myself. If you happen to have any specific Japanese brand you'd like to know about, I'd be happy to go through a few websites for you. B. Andersen Thanks for that research. So all TR paper is only from this company? Was not sure what "largely handled " meant.
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Post by MrAndersen on Sept 14, 2015 2:12:33 GMT
That was a little vague, I'll be a bit more specific: All the paper is made by Tomoegawa. It's their brand, and their website doesn't mention any outsourcing or licensing of manufacture. For the Japanese market, Sakae Technical is the only end-user distributor of Tomoe River FP branded A4 pads and sheets, which they cut and pack from raw paper made by Tomoegawa. Makers of notepads etc. likely get their paper in bulk from Tomoegawa, which also means that they can select the weight as they please. B. Andersen Edit: Sorry, I tend to forget to mention language details - Tomoe River is simply English for Tomoegawa. They named the paper after themselves, you see.
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Post by sinistral on Sept 14, 2015 20:44:59 GMT
Anyone use Tomoe Paper that is left handed? What are your thoughts?
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Post by distractedmom on Mar 22, 2016 14:05:57 GMT
I just ordered my first batch of Tomoe River paper from JetPens. And then added a bottle of ink for good measure for the free shipping. I'm a savvy consumer, right?
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Post by ritak on Mar 22, 2016 15:58:37 GMT
I just ordered my first batch of Tomoe River paper from JetPens. And then added a bottle of ink for good measure for the free shipping. I'm a savvy consumer, right? Definitely a savvy consumer . Free shipping is always a plus. Have you tried the TR paper before ? I'm one of the very few people who isn't totally crazy about this paper. It's so smooth to write on and showcases the ink beautifully but it's so thin that I always manage to crinkle it when I write. I keep hoping they come up with a heavier version that is readily available here in the states because it's definitely a pleasure to write on.
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